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Post by MrKill on Nov 11, 2014 22:51:41 GMT -6
I think everyone knew this thread was on the horizon. Like the last thread, voting will be closed on 2014-11-16, but vote will be instant. Now, please note that if the vote lands in a 'no' we will not delete the current custom canon, we will simply restrict the ability to create new content.
Custom Canon, or what we call 'Yappas Canon' or somewhere along the line, has been questioned by more than a dozen people -- new and old, present or not -- who come into the website expecting us to be following the established canon of the Halo Universe. Some people dislike that we have custom canon, and while I refuse to delete peoples created and approved content, I can adapt to the members wish to not have anymore custom canon if that is what they chose.
Custom canon has been around for a while, and makes us unique and different from other Halo RPs. We have a community of authors who are imaginative and want to create content in the Halo Universe, and we allow that through our own stories and our own content -- within limits, of course.
So the question I ask you, the community, is should we allow custom canon from this point on or stick to what has been established in the Halo Universe. Again, please note that we are not going to delete the current custom canon we have.
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Post by Dufflepud on Nov 11, 2014 23:00:04 GMT -6
May I suggest that a gradient be added to this? The reason is that, with official canon as it is, so full of holes and inconsistent, it's almost impossible not to create SOME level of custom canon (in my opinion). However, this "bandaid" canon is different from other custom additions in that it extrapolates from what we do know. Perfect examples of this are size measurements for the different races, covenant ship specs, etc. There are still so many ways in which we could, as a community, make the Halo universe more coherent, that it would still be a valuable addition to the site as far as I'm concerned, even if we stripped away the ability to create new guns, vehicles, ships, ranks, races, etc.
Basically, all I'm saying is that we should distinguish whether we want to get rid of all custom canon, or only certain types of it.
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Post by SuperCommando on Nov 11, 2014 23:07:53 GMT -6
Obviously things should not be added on a whim and should be properly considered before being made official, but I believe that having the possibility to personalize our own version of the Halo Universe is what makes this site special.
Basically, it's OUR Halo, not Bungie's or 343i's.
Besides, simply saying "oh we're not adding any more custom content" isn't going to make the Yappa's Universe suddenly stick to the established game/novel material. It's already different. And since you've adamantly stated that the current custom canon will not be deleted (and rightly so), things are going to stay different. Thus, restricting further custom content is pointless.
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Post by Kuran on Nov 11, 2014 23:12:18 GMT -6
Obviously things should not be added on a whim and should be properly considered before being made official, but I believe that having the possibility to personalize our own version of the Halo Universe is what makes this site special. Basically, it's OUR Halo, not Bungie's or 343i's. Besides, simply saying "oh we're not adding any more custom content" isn't going to make the Yappa's Universe suddenly stick to the established game/novel material. It's already different. And since you've adamantly stated that the current custom canon will not be deleted (and rightly so), things are going to stay different. Thus, restricting custom content is pointless. I'm just returning, I think, so I may not count, but... What SC said. Established canon has a lot of plot holes and such. So while it needs to be kept reasonable, it'd get boring if we only stuck to established canon. Like Covenant commanders appropriating captured coffee supplies. |
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Post by MrKill on Nov 11, 2014 23:26:29 GMT -6
I agree with you, SC, but it has been a recurring topic over the past eons this website has been around... okay, that may have been a bit of a over exaggeration, I just thought I'd get the communities opinion on the manner.
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Post by Guardian Cat of Yappa's on Nov 12, 2014 0:54:06 GMT -6
I honestly don't understand why people even question the idea of custom canon, there are so many holes and plot issues that I have seen filled by the already approved Yappa's canon, and besides, Yappas has already become it's own deviation of Halo if you think about it. I mean lets take the current Halo situation, Bungie had planned to end the Halo trilogy with Halo 3, which left everyone with a massive cliff hangers. 343i, trying to keep the spirit alive, decided to create new canon to revive the halo series after Halo 3, but if you noticed the publishers never really tried to fill in the time from the start of the war to the first halo game. So basically Yappa's Canon, is our own written story of what Happened between the start of the war, and the first halo, and really if we don't stay with Bungie/343 canon, there wouldn't be much of a crime, since we've already stated that we have established our own canon separate from their's. So yeah Pro Custom Canon!
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Post by Faclan on Nov 12, 2014 1:13:21 GMT -6
100% Yes.
Otherwise how can I keep making Kig-Yar culture and things like that D:
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Post by AlphaWolf on Nov 15, 2014 20:42:26 GMT -6
Absolutely yes. Custom canon makes Yappa's unique and more enjoyable.
I dunno about the rest of the members that are still here that were around then, but I have quite fond memories of the Zarmory. There were some very well-written, thought-out, and interesting proposals in there.
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Post by Dufflepud on Nov 16, 2014 1:02:50 GMT -6
Absolutely yes. Custom canon makes Yappa's unique and more enjoyable. I dunno about the rest of the members that are still here that were around then, but I have quite fond memories of the Zarmory. There were some very well-written, thought-out, and interesting proposals in there. Some of it was great, of course, but I would encourage us to look at new proposals from the perspective of "no unless demonstrated to have a positive impact on the RP" rather than "yes unless demonstrated to be utterly game/world breaking." The fact that a certain individual (a former member who shall not be named) would throw a literal tantrum the moment a logical flaw was pointed out in one of their numerous proposals (and would counter with, rather than a coherent point or an offer to modify their proposal, "why don't you just go write your own custom canon instead of criticizing the ones I write?!") is indicative of the ineffectiveness of that particular extreme in my opinion. |
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Post by Llau on Nov 16, 2014 4:49:48 GMT -6
I agree with everyone else.
Creating certain canon makes things work when there are so many plot-holes and inconsistencies in the series. We're basically modding Halo, and as long as we keep things "lore-friendly", then we'll be fine. There's nothing wrong with being creative, just as long as it can fit within the established canon of Bungie/343. If, the developers decide to explain something we know in a lot more detail to fill in the gaps (like Kig-Yar culture), then we sure can change it here. No problem, but for now, we do what we can.
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Post by David on Nov 16, 2014 9:09:22 GMT -6
*walks in*
So we are back to this topic.
Personally, I am for this. Custom Canon is what we need to breath fresh air into the site. it keeps members interested and it offers the more creative among us a chance to shine and show off what we can do.
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